Prayer beads, rosaries, etc. etc. … and the Lutherans

Auto Date Tuesday, November 21st, 2006

The subject of rosaries usually can elicit lively discussion between Lutherans.  Most of us think first and foremost of standard Roman Catholic rosaries, with their decades of Hail Marys, the occasional Our Fathers, the meditation on the various “mysteries,” wrapped up with the Hail Holy Queen.  In other words, a Marian rosary with the purpose of invoking her, and certain promises of merit and blessing attached to its recitation.  Suffice it to say that Lutherans don’t go in for this invocation stuff, nor of the benefits of any man-made work, not to speak of the confusion of the nature of works in our salvation.  Our confessions condemn this sort of practice as a “childish and needless work,” which is not actually a true good work at all.

Lutherans who have therefore abandoned the ancient Christian practice of using some form of counters or beads in certain prayer settings, due to the Roman abuses of the same, tend to be rather off-put by that picture of Martin Chemnitz with his rosary beads, or puzzled by the notion of any Lutheran using them.  It’s hard to dislodge the usual rosary associations we have with Rome.  Of course, the fact is that the ancient church did not invoke the saints on their beads, stones, or knots, and so their practice did not greatly resemble the Dominican rosary we tend to think of nowadays.

So if Lutherans are indeed free to use prayer beads in our prayer lives, as we use bookmarks in our reading lives, what might an “acceptably Lutheran” set of prayer beads look like?

A search on words like “Lutheran rosary” yield some interesting results.  Very liberal church groups are not above using practices of the ancient church… usually with some bizarre twists.  I’ve seen “churches” use a feminist sort of rosary with a goddess figure where the cross should be.  This ELCA site starts out with what seems like an okay set of prayers for their rosary, but by the time you get down to “Good Friday” you’re feeling kind of iffy, and by the time you get to the E.E. Cummings poem, I’m inclined to say, ”No thanks.”  But they also include this downloadable booklet for praying through the Small Catechism, with looks much more promising.

This frequently-mentioned Lutheran Rosary includes, as a possibility, the “pre-Trent Hail Mary,” which excludes the second half of the prayer, requesting her intercession.  While I’m not at all against honoring Mary, having images of her, speaking in praise of her, etc, I’m not comfortable with using this as part of a rosary, which is commonly understood to be a set of prayers.  Unless you’re going to use your beads entirely for the recitation of Scriptures which speak highly of the saints, it would seem that including such a “praise” in the form of a direct address, alongside other prayers, is a bit misleading.  This is my opinion; maybe some will come along to contest it!  All in all, this set of prayer beads is okay to me.  The Jesus Prayer, often used in the Orthodox church, is very good.  I’d use the Magnificat instead of the Hail Mary, though.

This ecumenical “Lutheran” rosary from Sweden is too on the touchy-feely, uber-”mystical” side for me.  If you look at the prayers suggested, a lot of them are of the “I breathe out my worry, I breathe in your peace” fluff variety.  Not a lot of Jesus in these prayers.

Personally, I like a lot of the prayers commonly associated with the Anglican rosary.  See the prayers suggested at the bottom of this page

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I don’t post this to necessarily encourage or urge people to take up this particular devotion or any other.  Let the practice of these things be a personal matter, provided that it does not work against our faith.  The discussion can be useful for determining what really does or doesn’t work against our faith, or what may prove to be more or less beneficial.  But I’m not turning this topic into a matter of “we ought to.”

Okay, fire away discussion!

14 Responses to “Prayer beads, rosaries, etc. etc. … and the Lutherans”

  1. Drew Says:
    November 24th, 2006 at 3:29 pm

    Kelly,

    Thank you for posting this! I’ve actually just ordered some prayer beads – hopefully they will help to structure my oftentimes lackadaisical devotional life. And I agree with you, the prayers associated with the Anglican rosary are quite good. Perhaps they will be a good place to start.

    Keep up the good work!

  2. Kelly Says:
    November 25th, 2006 at 9:46 pm

    Just out of curiosity, what sort of beads did you get?

  3. Josh Says:
    November 25th, 2006 at 11:02 pm

    Here’s a site with a Lutheran way to pray a standard Dominican Rosary, it uses the Jesus Prayer instead of Hail Mary’s and two of the Marian Mysteries have been changed to be more Biblical. http://orthodoxlutheran.fws1.com/bvm/lutheranrosary.pdf
    I have also tried ELCA rosary for praying the Small Chatecism, and the Anglican Prayer Beads. Of them all I like the rosary I first mentioned and the Small Catecism one.

  4. Kelly Says:
    November 25th, 2006 at 11:20 pm

    Josh, the link that you provided should be one of the same ones that is referenced in the main post, fifth paragraph. :)

  5. Drew Says:
    November 26th, 2006 at 3:42 am

    Kelly,

    Black/Fire Polished Black
    Sterling Silver Spacers
    Benedictine Crucifix

    http://www.whitestreetbeadcompany.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=products.showImage&image=http://www.whitestreetbeadcompany.com//images/PBSS9.jpg

  6. Josh Says:
    November 26th, 2006 at 10:03 pm

    I see, sorry about that, it’s just that in the article you made it sound like repititions of the praise, when you only say it once on the medalion.

  7. Kelly Says:
    November 28th, 2006 at 12:53 am

    Nope, what I was saying in my post isn’t that the “repetitious” praise of Mary was the concern; it was the idea of including a sort of first-person, direct address “praise” amongst nothing but other prayers. That looks really potentially misleading to me.

  8. Kelly Says:
    December 1st, 2006 at 12:54 am

    The Benedictine Crucifix, that’s kind of interesting… aren’t Benedictine medals often used as a kind of “anti-Satan” device in some circles?

  9. Daniel Says:
    June 9th, 2007 at 11:22 pm

    Hello and God bless you. I have a question if you still willing to talk. I know rosary in which Luther ue was not like modern marian rosary, but it was a devotional to mary nevertheless. I am ex catholic and I am Lutheran. I have still have deep piet to mary. I do not fully agree with Catholic about her, but I think protestant have forsake her too. i think Mary i blessed among all women and it possble she was sinless by the merit of Jesus Christ before his birth. I find rev 12:1-6 as poof Mary was taken up to heavan as her death. I have no problem with ave maria prayer, but hail holy Queen pray go way to far. Jesus is only one who can save me, but Blessed Mother gave us her son. we can not deniel her place in heavan. I think she clear has special place in heavan and can prayer for us, but in the end it up to God alone.

  10. Kimberly Winston Says:
    May 27th, 2008 at 3:48 pm

    HI, Kelly. I am the author of a book on prayer beads in which I discuss the Lutheran pray beads you mention in the post and I thought, wow, this is so difficult, so hard to remember, you’d have to use crib notes all the way through the recitation to remember what prayer to say on what bead. But I don’t see you mention the Anglican rosary – also called Episcopal prayer beads – in your post. I am a Methodist and this is the form I prefer most. It has 33 beads – one for each year of Christ’s life – and there are a million prayers you can say on them – scripture, hymn lyrics, common prayers or your own compositions. I write about this subject weekly on my blog, http://www.kimberlywinston.wordpress.org. I hope you will visit me there and let me know what you think.

  11. Kelly Says:
    August 17th, 2008 at 10:04 pm

    [Note: Anglican rosary was discussed in original post, near the end.]

  12. John Dornheim Says:
    March 9th, 2009 at 5:22 pm

    Long before I learned about the ELCA’s discussion about “Lutheran” prayerbeads, I had learned to make the ones designed by Lynn Bauman in 1985 called Anglican prayer beads. I see them as being ecumenical-or at least non-Roman- although I have made some with the Lutheran Rose cross.
    Regardless, I think it is a good discipline for Lutherans.

  13. Justin Stawarz Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 11:49 pm

    I agree, there is a small place for the rosary in the Lutheran church but only as a form of worship, not as the Catholics abuse it, as a way to bestow blessings or “atone” for sins.

  14. Bill Says:
    April 23rd, 2010 at 2:28 pm

    I am Catholic and my daughter is Lutheran married to a Lutheran Minister. I just finished making her a set of prayer beads for praying The Small Catechism.
    I have a question:
    You and I as Catholic and Lutheran have almost identical Apostolic Creeds. When we recite this creed we are proclaiming our faith. In the last few lines of the creed we say……
    I believe in………..the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body, and the life everlasting. Amen. My question is this…. If we are in communion with the saints and there is life everlasting, why is it not proper to call on these saints, one of whom is ST. MARY, the Mother of God, to help us pray to God for our intentions? They are a lot closer to God than any of us on this earth.

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